big bill's whole debate with jon stewart was like that. even when he offered up a morsel of praise for anyone, he tripped over the facts. he gave a thumb's up to jor ras anmaria elena salinas, who were guests on moyers & company last week, for putting president obama's feet to the fire on immigration reform. >>> a promise is a promise. and with all due respect, but you didn't keep that promise. >> but he had their network wrong, too. >> and that was a best interview by the way, these telemundo people. that was the best one so far in the campaign. >> they're on univision, bill. not telemundo, those two are competitors. suppose i mixed up your fox news channel with, say, the cartoon network. anyway, no hard feelings. i've never even met bill o'reilly, by the way. but over the years, as his attacks on public broadcasting and our independent journalism have mounted, i have kept inviting him to come on our program to have a civil conversation about our differences. no editing, no tricks. i'll even introduce him to our fact checkers, se of the b